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What do you do when you get a knock off guitar on your bench?

I have a "fender", which I believe is a knock off, in my shop. I didn't immediately catch that it was a fake, but as I worked on it it's become fairly undeniable, in my opinion. For the neck — the fretboard is made from two pieces of rosewood, the headstock decal doesn't look right, the truss rod is metric, the tuners don't look like a MIA Fender, and there's no walnut plug on the truss access. The model name being wrong is suspicio…

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Ian Davlin
My opinion is to avoid mission creep. Repairing instruments and authenticating instruments are two different jobs. Only one of these jobs are you actually being paid for. I've never experienced any up…
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Replicating Kurt Cobains 59 Martin - bad idea?!

Greetings fellow Looths! I recently received a request from a customer to replicate Kurt Cobains 59 Martin, starting with a Sigma DM3. I have pasted the customers email to me below. While I have been a looth hobbyist for many years, I just recently opened my official business, Finger Lakes Guitar Works, and am just getting off the ground and a good flow of repair work is already coming in. While I feel 100% confident in my abilities to…

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Seems kinda annoying to me. The guy wants to spend a ton of money building a replica of a guitar but he's going to not use a guitar by the actual brand to do it? I'm going to go with this is going t…
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1950's Gretsch Neck Reset

I had a vintage Gretsch semi hollow come through the shop this week and it's left me with some questions. First off identifying the instrument's model has been a trick so far. The only information I can find is that is was likely built in and around the early 50's Second, it's in need of a neck reset. I'm not particularly well versed in resets for hollow and semi hollow guitars, especially one of this age and design. I'm very curious…

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Ian Davlin
That neck is coming off because it wasn't put on very well when it was made. In my opinion, slipping some glue in there and trying to clamp it shut will result in the next guy (often you) having a har…
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neck reset guild 512

Hi, I should do a neck reset on a Guild 512B from probably 1973. I have done neck resets before, but this is the first on a guitar that has some value. I want to look out for information about this specific model before i start working. Has anyone done a neck reset on a simular model? What kind of neck joint did they use, and what are the dimensions? Is there anything specific to look out for? I will probably not start working on the guitar…

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Great answers from Ian and Tony!!!! If you can paint some reducer around the joint, wait until it activates and cut the nitro with a scalpel it will improve your chances with the finish issues. You'll…
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Kamouraska Classical 1979

This is a Kamouraska classical guitar, model 111, made in Canada in 1979. Internet information says it was made in La Patrie, Quebec, and later the line became La Patrie guitars. It looks like someone has been into this one before as the dovetail fit was poor, the gluing is very sloppy, and there are some rough chisel marks on the face of the heel. Note that if you drilled holes at the 13th fret you would miss the pocket by a few mm. Th…

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Outstanding ! Nice call outs !
Private member DiscussionAcoustic Repair

Fretboard hump above fret #12

Is it a common problem for the fretboard on an acoustic to develop a hump around Fret #12 and higher, where the neck meets the body? If so, what is the cause, and is there something that can be done, or avoided, during the initial build process? I have two quality Zager brand guitars that both have the problem, with the problem being worse on the cheaper model. I am a newbie to fret dressing and lowering, so I first tried adjusting the…

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Thanks for a great answer. I am a retired sonar engineer, so your explanation makes perfect sense to me. I figured it had to be almost an endemic problem with acoustic guitars.Next question: Can you r…
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The first tool to measure longitudinal neck torsion/twist - the LTwist® gauge

Dear looth community/colleagues around the world, During 2023/24 I have developed a digital gauge to measure so-called longitudinal twist of (bass) guitar necks: the LTwist® gauge. Just to be clear, this is about the "cork screw" type of deviation along the length of a neck, not the bow of a neck. I think there is no need to explain how a too severe neck twist can make it difficult or even impossible to set up a stringed instrument (guita…

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1980 Daion 12-string

Model is "The '80". Daion built some nice guitars in the 70's and 80's out of a small shop in Japan. Nice old all mahogany 12 string. It's my instrument so doing a bolt on conversion. Forget about trying to get the neck off one of these (apart from Kung Fu) - neck construction seems to be based on multiple dowels (a bit like some Japanese furniture I suppose)

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Neck Shim spreadsheet

First time here on the forums, not sure how often I'll check in, but thought this the best place to post it. Was playing with an idea proposed by Buck Van Laarhoven on a parametric model for bolt-on neck shims, and found the formulas I wrote up translated easily to Taylor and conventional acoustic neck joints so decided to add boxes for those as well. I'm not well versed in Google Sheets, but couldn't see a way to upload the file direct…

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Hey Dave Recommend you make a copy of the file to load up. Then your original Google sheet won't be altered by another user in the shared file. You can do that by going to file and click 'make a copy…
Private member Discussion3D Printing

3D scanner

Anyone use a 3D scanner to make models for printing, or CNC? I've noticed a number of inexpensive scanners on the market that appear to be an able to scan with fine detail and accuracy. I've wondered if they could be used to scan a guitar neck, or arch top mandolin plate to then cut on a CNC after tweaking in a CAD program.

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That's kind of what I thought. The scan comes out dirty and needs more manipulation in software which can be more work than drawing it in the first place. I was curious as there are now numerous ads…
Private member DiscussionNeck Reset Database

Jester W160 neck joint

This is an early 80's Jester. The only identification is the label inside which appears to show the model number as ACW160, though I've only seen reference to model W160 online. There is scant information about Jester guitars online, and some of it seems inconsistent. This was most likely made in either Holland or Romania. Online information indicated that this would have a dowelled neck joint, but it clearly doesn't. This was a very di…

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2006 Martin 000C-16GTE Neck Reset Question- M&T

Hey Everyone- I have a Martin 000c-16 that is in bad need of a neck reset- Anyone have any experience with this particular model? It’s a mortise and tenon. Will I have more luck using steam or foam cutters? Anything to watch out for? UPDATE-So I think i’m good now. I found a in-depth write up on this model M&T reset process in the new Martin Repair Guide - by Patrick DiBurro Great book BTW- Thanks!

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Ian Davlin
I haven't checked his book, but one thing I like to do is take that insert out, throw one in with a little more bite to the threads and put it in with epoxy. I also cap over the end of the tenon with…
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Seagull S6 2005

This came to me all smashed up and I rebuilt it with a new sitka top. The neck was bolted on with the fingerboard extension glued to the (original) cedar top. There is a block under the extension with the end of the truss rod running through it. The bolt heads are recessed in the neck block and in another example, I've seen there is a label over the neck block to hide the bolt heads. I don't know if the two brass shims next to the bolt…

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Ian Davlin
Thank you for adding to the Neck Joint Hall of Fame Thomas !
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Woodseses

Howdy folks, Y'all may know that over the years I've had my hands in all sorts of varying degrees of our beloved lutherie bizz; from my current modest restoration shop focus to work for 'The Man' in big production. Throughout this I've built up contacts of various sorts and recently, as I've started to get back into building (to some degree) I've had some of these contact ask me about moving some wood on their behalf. So, here I am wo…

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I emailed you!
Beau Hannam - Beau Hannam Guitars DiscussionNeck Reset Database

Neck Reset Repair Forms and Spreed sheet Suite

Neck Reset suite repair forms and spreadsheet. (Please share 🌞) Three new (and pretty cool) totally free forms on my website (http://www.beauhannamguitars.com/Lutherie-Resources.html) 1- The first form is a detailed explanation of the procedure taking into account top deflection (print one out for yourself to look at) 2- The second is the Neck Reset repair form to print multiples of and give to the customer. 3- The third is an Excel spreed…

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Outstanding Excell SS, thanks, Your Mother
Private member DiscussionNeck Reset Database

Martin D-2832 Shenandoah 1983

This is a 1983 Martin Shenandoah D-2832. From what I've found, this joint continues to be used on similar models until at least 1987, after which I don't know. It has a single bolt accessed inside the body behind a wood cover. The face of the heel is inset a mm or two and is glued fully at the face of the body joint. Drill holes under the 14th fret right at the joint to loosen the glue.The neck is removed laterally rather than vertically…

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Hey Jay i was looking for a Shenanadoah neck reset and found yours .Ive been trying to pull this neck today ive done lots of resets before but this one is a Bear! i still cant get it to release it seem…
Private member DiscussionNeck Reset Database

Stuff to include in your Neck Reset Database post

This neck reset database is going to be massively useful. If you come across something new or weird, add a topic here. You know the sort of info that'll be good here: For the title, maybe use the instrument model (and a year if possible). Obviously add a photo or two. If you can, include some measurements (or place a ruler in the photo). That'll help with stuff like finding dovetail pockets for drilling. Anything that could trip up an unsu…

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