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Airbrush attempt went South

Just joined the group and have only built 3 guitars so far but just ran into trouble on my latest project. Long story short: I built a '57 LP Jr that came out fantastic but the neck was set incorrectly and was nearly unplayable. I cut off the body and made a new one and applied the burst and a few coats of clear before gluing in the salvaged neck. To finish up the neck joint with a bit more black, I dusted off my 20 yo Paasche airbru…

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I'm new here, so I'll have to figure out what/where that is, but if that's where it should be, then absolutely.
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Satin finish repair

Searched a bit but didnt see anything on this I have some chipped finish on the soundboard - was a satin burst finish of sorts on a torrefied spruce top. I was thinking of putting down some shellac and then either black fill n finish or black lacquer on top. Then some scotch brite or 0000 steel wool to make it satin. Is this a reasonable approach? Anything others have to add?

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I know nothing of the finish.. mitchell website specs says "BODY FINISH: Thin, Open Pore". Very helpful, thanks.. Also was still having doubts that this was a true black. The sunburst has notes of red…
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Fender Neck Touchup

Ok. Did a refret on a MIM Fender Strat maple neck. Some of the finish came off (was careful AF but....) It is not lacquer but I assume a poly finish. New lacquer did not meld. Can/should I use a tinted CA fix? Any tips, color recipes? Any help would be appreciated. VERY appreciated. Thanks -Mike

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I'd really appreciate that. Should I DM you for a time to do that?
Private member DiscussionFinish Repair

Les Paul Cherry neck: Touch-up or refinish?

The neck on this Epiphone Les Paul was repaired by the local Guitar Center, but they left it ragged and the customer asked me to fix the finish. It appears to be very thick poly (not lacquer) and the crack has some glue left over from the repair. I would love to be able to just fill and finish the cracks, but I'm afraid it will be near impossible to match, so I'm inclined to strip and refinish the whole neck. Advice??

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Thanks Al, I use the FNF liquids, but not powdered stain. I'd welcome a 1-on-1 if you're game. Whatsapp works well (+1-253-376-0116). I'm on Pacific time. Looking forward to talking! Neil
Private member DiscussionFinish New Builds

Black Grain Filler Under EM6000?

I am switching from NC lacquer to EM6000. I also want to switch from black WB filler to blackened epoxy grain fill. My question relates to keeping the color in the pores and off the surface wood, and whether to vinyl seal before and/or after epoxy fill, I already know how to tint epoxy black. Could black grain fill style be accomplished with black epoxy as the grain filler and would a vinyl sealer be used at all, or just use EM6000 for…

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Karl - Funny you should mention it… my shellac order is out for delivery today. And thanks for the finishing schedule. In this most recent build, I find myself developing strategies that will avoid st…
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Poor Lacquer Adhesion? — 2023 Martin D35

Customer brought in his D35 which he bought new 6 months ago from a local shop in here in Toronto. The way he describes it— the finish on the back of the neck began to ripple, and in one spot bubbled and chipped off about the size of a quarter. Where the lacquer has chipped off, there’s still sealer and pore fill underneath. I’ve heard about finish adhesion issues on Martins of various eras. The rest of the neck finish is starting to ri…

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Def should go back to Martin. I’d take it to warranty location . Are you Martin warranty?
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How about this giant fan for winter lacquer spraying?

Just curious on some thoughts if this fan would work to prevent me from poisoning myself and my family from spraying in my basement shop: https://a.co/d/8UPeRwk I have a basement shop with a door that goes outside. I don’t have a sprayer system, so am currently using rattle cans. Wondering if I set this up with a big 25 foot hose going outside, and put my workpiece right in front of it, if I could get away with spraying in my shop to acc…

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Re: Dale Fairbanks’ garage - I’ll add that’s a really valid concern. My town (Dale’s former town) has a well-deserved reputation for crotchety neighbors who like to complain. Many municipalities have…
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Finishing Zircote

Hi Everyone. I am planning to finish my latest electric build which has a Zircote top. I am going to spray Nitro Lacquer. Is there anything I need to watch out for in spraying over such an oily wood? Thanks!

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Hi Robert: Nothing special to do with Ziricote. You should wipe it down with mineral spirits or naptha and then a light coat of thinned finish or sanding sealer is all that is needed before you start…
Private member DiscussionFinish Repair

Tape Residue on Tru-Oil / Epoxy? How to remove, alternative tape?

Hi! This is a new build but suddenly it's also a finish repair. I tested Ken Parker's Epoxy + Tru-Oil approach on the fretboard of this ukulele before committing to the rest of the instrument. It's a single (very thin) coat of West System epoxy (using the clear hardener), then 3 coats (so far) of Tru Oil. It's well-cured, about three months. The bad thing happened yesterday: attempting to dress a fret end, I was using thick double-side…

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Thanks, I’ll give that a look!
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What causes these pits?

Hey All I am finishing a ukulele and I am getting all these weird pits. I was able to drop fill a lot of them but most of them do not want to stay filled and it is driving me mad! Anyone have an idea as to what may be causing these little pits? I used StewMac's dry power pore filler and their lacquer. I'm about to strip it and start over because at this point I've been chasing my tail so much I'm going crossed eyed. Thoughts?

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Yeah it's just the physical properties of the wood. Some more porous woods might need a second pass at pore filling or a sanding sealer after pore filling, before applying lacquer. I've even used vi…
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Nitro Lacquer - FREE!!

I’ve moved away from nitro lately and have a number of cans left that I no longer have use for. They’re free to anyone who wants them - if they can be of any use to someone I’d rather that than dispose of them. All new & still factory sealed. 3x Seagrave Gloss L3651 1x Seagrave Guitar Sealer R-1140 I’m in the SF Bay Area so if there’s anyone local that would be awesome, maybe meet up and grab a drink. Otherwise, I would be willing to ship i…

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What direction have you moved to?
Private member DiscussionFinish Repair

Blending in a neck break repair.

I'm looking for advice and feedback on this touch up. It's my second one of these carbon fiber fabric repairs, my first turned out much better. I used the powdered pigments to match the color of the original wood, which was exposed along the margins of my repair, then I used glass slides to match the color of the lacquer. I then used The Mohawk brush tip marker, which I don't think I'll use again because I couldn't get straight lines.…

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So, This doesn't strike you as a color coat airbrush technique issue? I have watched your video airbrushes.
Private member DiscussionFinish Repair

Butyl Cellosolve to reflow 70s Gibson lacquer

I consulted the Flexner book for reference using butyl cellosolve in lacquer. As expected it says ratios into lacquer are trial and error. I'm looking for an answer to best re-flow 70s Gibson lacquer to melt with new over sprayed lacquer. What's my best bet ratio butyl/lacquer to avoid adhesion issues? Thanks in advance! -Brent

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Do you have a picture of the affliction you could post ?
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2005 Gibson SG with lifting lacquer on headstock

Hey y'all, Got a guitar in for repair, I've got nitrocellulose and experience with it, so can repair it one way or another, but would like advice on what's best. I figure the options are stripping the headstock by itself and respraying, or maybe doing the trick of very thinned lacquer hoping it will slip underneath and hold the existing stuff down. Owner is budget conscious but also not too concerned with originality so it's a bit of a t…

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I suspect you would spend quite a bit less time stripping and refinishing. It looks like you could get under the lifting with a palette knife and just peel it off like a bad sunburn. After that, the w…
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70s PBass refret

I have a 70s PBass with a maple “A” neck that could use a refret. It still seems to have the original frets. I tried a level and crown on the already low frets, but I think it needs refret. The frets in the money area are pretty low, .030-.025 and I’m concerned about removing them sideways, as I’ve never had a chance to do that. I understand from the fretorama with Joel Wilkins that when they are this low it increases the difficulty of…

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I've noticed they don't always come out easiest in the same direction either. I can't imagine why, but it seems some were driven in from the treble side and some from the bass side. So if you're havin…
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Help please! Black lacquer finish & Gluboost

Hello! Brand new member here following the recommendation of Rick at Gluboost. He suggested that I reach out to this group to get help with my restoration project. I'm actually looking to restore vintage dining chairs (6) that have chips on their black lacquer finish. Rick confirmed that Gluboost should be a good option for refinishing the chairs but I'm having the hardest using the product to get the results I want (sad photos attached…

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I can certainly do a consult. This is a fussy bit of work though and is the type of thing that, on guitars, has broken the soul of quite a few repair people over the years. I don't want to do any gate…
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Spraying solid colors

I've been asked to spray a couple of guitars opaque white using urethane. I've never sprayed much other than clearcoat on acoustics. I'm not sure how to go about this. Since they want urethane I thinking of getting Mixol and mixing that with the lacquer and then using the same lacquer untinted for the topcoats. I see a lot of negative reviews about Mixol. I know how reviews can be so I would like some advice on MIxol or an alter…

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As an addendum to the previous post, when you go to the auto store, tell them you want to spray a color coat and then clear urethane. That way they will sell you a basecoat/clearcoat color. The termin…
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Loose Pickguard

Working on a Gibson acoustic with a loose pickguard. It appears to be adhered to the lacquer, but I haven’t focused on it yet. I’ll be working on removing it tomorrow so I’ll find out for sure. I have the 3M adhesive to re-adhere it if the guard is adhered to the finish. Anyone have insights, tips or thoughts? It’s been quite a while since I’ve done this, but seem to remember the adhesive worked well.

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Thank you! Yes this stuff is a sticky mess and does not come off easily. It did as close to nothing on the pickguard material but doesn’t want to come off the top. I got the pickguard off the guita…